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Farewell to Zigic and Burke; It's official....
Topic Started: Jul 1 2014, 11:38 AM (1,042 Views)
bluenosekev
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bluenoseboris
Jul 2 2014, 01:11 PM

I remember travelling to the Euros and seeing zig grab the ball, demand to take the penalty, and muff it up.....
He didnt 'muff it up'

The goalkeeper saved it. The Braga keeper guessed the right way.

And lets face it, we wouldn't have been there in the first place if it weren't for Ziggy ;)




kro
Edited by bluenosekev, Jul 2 2014, 01:23 PM.
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bluenosekev
Jul 2 2014, 01:21 PM
bluenoseboris
Jul 2 2014, 01:11 PM

I remember travelling to the Euros and seeing zig grab the ball, demand to take the penalty, and muff it up.....
He didnt 'muff it up'

The goalkeeper saved it. The Braga keeper guessed the right way.

And lets face it, we wouldn't have been there in the first place if it weren't for Ziggy ;)




kro
This.

Even if a pen is poorly struck it still has a chance if you get it on target

What annoys me is when it is high or wide. Missing an 8yard x 8ft target from 12 yards out is unacceptable IMO
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I knew this would turn into a love/hate zigic thread.

You know I really don't know how I feel.

I really think he was a big game player and if we had stayed up , he would have been a better player for us than he turned our

For us in 130 ish games , he played in 5, the 3 CC games, blackpool at home in the play off's when he came on and bolton away, the rest he basically went through the motions and picked up his money.

Legend, well blues fokelore is all about 100% players , workers , give all for the badge, TF aside. So legend no, but there is no denying the part he played in the CC win, and for that we will always remember.

Would we have been better without him over the last 2 seasons???? This year will be a good gauge on that, we have brought in 9- 10 players on the back of his wages.

This season will give a guide on the afect his wages had on the club, the answer??? I dont know we will have to wait and see.

Burke??? 100%er, no good championship winger , yes, will we miss him , yes!!

Anyway, heres a question for the love/hate debate, who's next???? Heskey, DJ, Fahey, Zigic???? Who this year, my guess is Novak, last seasons top scorer, yes, I think the player who played out of position and ended up our top scorer last year, and was called rubbish by some, yes, the rubbish out of position top scorer!!!!!! I'm going for him and you can see the side of the debate Im on!!!
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I see it's one final thread for Lowds to make disparaging comments about Ziggy then??? < <

If all he did was score a goal that helped Blues win a cup final and another that helped save us from League One (and possible extinction), then he would have been well worth whatever he was paid in wages (and much more)…

Thank you Ziggy and thank you Burkey; all the best to you both! :blues:
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Kyle-KRO
Jul 2 2014, 06:06 PM
I see it's one final thread for Lowds to make disparaging comments about Ziggy then??? < <

If all he did was score a goal that helped Blues win a cup final and another that helped save us from League One (and possible extinction), then he would have been well worth whatever he was paid in wages (and much more)…

Thank you Ziggy and thank you Burkey; all the best to you both! :blues:
not to mentioned he was the deciding factor is us even getting to the final
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Jul 2 2014, 11:45 AM
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Jul 1 2014, 05:50 PM
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Jul 1 2014, 04:58 PM
Zigic is a leech, what a weird remark!! how the hell can the guy be a leech, he has a contract from his employer.

Does that make you a leech as well because you have a contract with your employer?

Bore off
Its a sad sad example of how this site has gone mate, and ya know what they are welcome to it Cus they are real supporters according to blacksmith.


As you, for some reason have brought my name up, to put you right, I said that people are entitled to their opinions and just because they differ from yours does not make them any less of a Blues supporter.

There are many people on this site whose views PI disagree with, and I will continue to argue my position, but I would not stoop so low as to say they are not Blues supporters as you seem to suggest so often.

I must admit, I get a bit tired of this 'I'm a better supporter than you, so anybody who disagrees with me can't be a Blues supporter.
You need your eyes testing, like I said at the time show me where I said any of that. You do not tell me how I should conclude my opinion, anyone who prefers blues to lose games to get the manager the sack will never ever be true supporters in my eyes, as no matter the reason I could never want my team to lose for my own selfish reasons. If you think differently then that's your problem but I am not telling you how to formulate your opinions am I, that's is not what the forum should be about, but don`t worry there won`t be one soon the way you are encouraging your mates.
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Jul 2 2014, 11:57 AM
If it wasn't for Zigic how do you think things would look no carling cup still would of got relegated as we couldn't score, still have the same owners and maybe playing league 1 football . Thanks for the memories and wish you well still think he wasn't used correctly during his time and we didn't get the best out of him on a regular basis. Thanks Burke for your time here aswell think a change was needed good luck for the future.
As I said in an earlier post. How do you know we wouldn't of won the cup without him? We could of had another player who put effort in and scored more than zig so we might of won easily. We might of stayed in the prem.
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Jul 2 2014, 09:26 PM
Jules002
Jul 2 2014, 11:57 AM
If it wasn't for Zigic how do you think things would look no carling cup still would of got relegated as we couldn't score, still have the same owners and maybe playing league 1 football . Thanks for the memories and wish you well still think he wasn't used correctly during his time and we didn't get the best out of him on a regular basis. Thanks Burke for your time here aswell think a change was needed good luck for the future.
As I said in an earlier post. How do you know we wouldn't of won the cup without him? We could of had another player who put effort in and scored more than zig so we might of won easily. We might of stayed in the prem.
But we're dealing with facts here, not ifs, buts and might-have-beens, and the facts are that Zigic scored goals that helped us win that cup, and got one of the goals and an assist that helped us stay up on the last day of the season. Facts.
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Jul 2 2014, 10:06 PM
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Jul 2 2014, 09:26 PM
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Jul 2 2014, 11:57 AM
If it wasn't for Zigic how do you think things would look no carling cup still would of got relegated as we couldn't score, still have the same owners and maybe playing league 1 football . Thanks for the memories and wish you well still think he wasn't used correctly during his time and we didn't get the best out of him on a regular basis. Thanks Burke for your time here aswell think a change was needed good luck for the future.
As I said in an earlier post. How do you know we wouldn't of won the cup without him? We could of had another player who put effort in and scored more than zig so we might of won easily. We might of stayed in the prem.
But we're dealing with facts here, not ifs, buts and might-have-beens, and the facts are that Zigic scored goals that helped us win that cup, and got one of the goals and an assist that helped us stay up on the last day of the season. Facts.
You were saying without zig we wouldn't of won the cup. Surely that's an if, but and might of been?
Edited by jonogroats, Jul 2 2014, 10:30 PM.
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Des
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No jonagroats, Zig did score those vital goals, I could talk about our Wembley win all day, it was a tactical masterpiece by Alex & Zig was the most important part of it, the first goal was a practice ground set piece that came off brilliantly while martins winner came about because Zig had terrorised both keeper & centre back all afternoon. Most people thought McLeish would start with Jerome on his own to run the channels but he went for the Ariel route which worked brilliantly.

Any thing else apart from the facts is supposition. Zig all time lege for what he achieved!!

KRO
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Jul 2 2014, 06:03 PM
I knew this would turn into a love/hate zigic thread.

You know I really don't know how I feel.

I really think he was a big game player and if we had stayed up , he would have been a better player for us than he turned our

For us in 130 ish games , he played in 5, the 3 CC games, blackpool at home in the play off's when he came on and bolton away, the rest he basically went through the motions and picked up his money.

Legend, well blues fokelore is all about 100% players , workers , give all for the badge, TF aside. So legend no, but there is no denying the part he played in the CC win, and for that we will always remember.

Would we have been better without him over the last 2 seasons???? This year will be a good gauge on that, we have brought in 9- 10 players on the back of his wages.

This season will give a guide on the afect his wages had on the club, the answer??? I dont know we will have to wait and see.

Burke??? 100%er, no good championship winger , yes, will we miss him , yes!!

Anyway, heres a question for the love/hate debate, who's next???? Heskey, DJ, Fahey, Zigic???? Who this year, my guess is Novak, last seasons top scorer, yes, I think the player who played out of position and ended up our top scorer last year, and was called rubbish by some, yes, the rubbish out of position top scorer!!!!!! I'm going for him and you can see the side of the debate Im on!!!
Not a single person can deny or argue against a word of that.

Simply the best appraisal of a player that divides opinion like no other. **thumbup

And yes, I agree with you about Novak. Although i will say he was rubbished last season by most already, even though he was the most reliable goal scorer.
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A Bambie on Ice I think he was called after is first season (thin ice at that IMO!) :rolleyes:
At least we can now loose these Zigic threads! **thumbup
Edited by Engleman, Jul 3 2014, 10:30 AM.
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Jul 3 2014, 09:32 AM
No jonagroats, Zig did score those vital goals, I could talk about our Wembley win all day, it was a tactical masterpiece by Alex & Zig was the most important part of it, the first goal was a practice ground set piece that came off brilliantly while martins winner came about because Zig had terrorised both keeper & centre back all afternoon. Most people thought McLeish would start with Jerome on his own to run the channels but he went for the Ariel route which worked brilliantly.

Any thing else apart from the facts is supposition. Zig all time lege for what he achieved!!

KRO
I'm not denying a lot of that win was down to him. My argument is when people keep saying we wouldn't of won the cup/would of got relegated last season without him.
How does anybody know that. Without him, last season especially we would of probably been better off without him as we probably could of had a few more players in/not been forced to sell to have a more settled side.

Zig was slow to get going at blues but was starting to look ok until he got injured after the cup. Ever since then apart from the odd game he hasn't done anywhere near enough for the team which is why all the zig bashers hate him.
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you are pretty spot on in a;ll your assessments jonogroats. I recall his first game @ Stans V Vile, I thought he was shocking but Alex came ouit and defended him! However I will go to my grave sure that if he had stayed fit after Wembley we would have stayed up!

KRO
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Jul 2 2014, 01:16 PM
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Des
Jul 2 2014, 10:32 AM
Lowds that's a rant not a rational counter argument, while steve mag although he may not have been your cup of tea nevertheless he is a Blues Legend, played in our league cip winning team beat the villa changed the game V west ham, scored first goal V Arsenal, frour goals at Leeds changed and scored V Blackpool home leg of play offs and great comeback header at Bolton....Legend!
Forget his wages lay that at the feet of PP & CY, facts are Alex Chris & Lee realised he was too good not top play, and finally I 100% believe if he could have started six games after Wembley we wouldn't have finished in bottom six!

KRO
As soon as anyone goes on the Blues payroll they're a legend in your book Des.


Legend :LMAO:

Legend :banghead: My word folk don't half dumb down the meaning of that word. The bastardisation of the English language continues.
Agreed, Francis was a legend as was Dugarry. Zig is certainly not.
There are of course several others who were legends but to say zig was demeans them. Thanks for the three or four !!!! Great big game goals Zigic. Now let's move on. Faster the better.
Sorry but dugarry wasn't here long enough to be called a legend.
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Jul 3 2014, 02:55 PM
you are pretty spot on in a;ll your assessments jonogroats. I recall his first game @ Stans V Vile, I thought he was shocking but Alex came ouit and defended him! However I will go to my grave sure that if he had stayed fit after Wembley we would have stayed up!

KRO
I think we would of stayed up as well. We would of probably seen a different zig and everyone would of loved him.
The main gripe with him was the wage he was taking for the effort/performances he put in. If he was only on 10k a week he wouldn't get anywhere near as much abuse.
I'm glad to see him gone but thank him for the few good games he managed to give us.
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Lowds, Zig has far more claim to be a lege than le sulk, scored five goals in total and was hauled off for not contributing at Man U Liverpool & most alarmingly Vile Puke where the double sub him & Cunningham replaced by Dunny & Stern led to the immortal sternjohninthenineteethminute!

However I prefer to remember the great performances of Dugarry Sunderland & Southampton at home & Charlton away.

Its pointless going through the matches where Zig had a massive influence but like it or not Lege he is.

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Jul 3 2014, 10:28 AM
A Bambie on Ice I think he was called after is first season (thin ice at that IMO!) :rolleyes:
At least we can now loose these Zigic threads! **thumbup
Don't you believe it. We're still talking about Robbie Savage and the like.

I am not a Zigic fan, but I didn't go and see him play too much. Maybe he was better when I didn't go :o . That said, when I did see him I thought he was lazy. Just my opinion mind. There is no need however to call him, or any player/ staff member, names. Thats means anyone.
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